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Q&A: How pointless is College/University for me?

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Question by : How pointless is College/University for me?
I’m wanting to be a computer programmer, do web design and writing apps.

I know html, php and some java script, and am currently learning java through youtube.
If i know (or can easily learn) all the languages and how to do everything, would i really need to spend 3-4 yrs and 40+ thousand dollars on a “further education”?

FYI im in my last year of high school.

Best answer:

Answer by Jennifer Clingo
Not pointless, but completely essential. Companies want to see that degree. Put it to you this way, one person comes into an interview with no degree, and the next comes in with a degree, who do you think will be hired ultimately? My guess is the person with the degree. A degree is very valued in our society today. It demonstrates that you have the knowledge and skill in your area, and that you were dedicated enough to go out and pursue a college education.
If you decide not to go, expect to make a lot less money, and very little room for advancement in a company.

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    I think it would be worth it. A lot of places won’t hire unless you have that degree. Even if they do and you apply and so does someone who is older, more experienced, and has a degree they’re going to get that job. Plus, you’ll learn a lot more about your specific area in school so you can be better at it and have more time to work with it.
    College is fun, too. It’s hard and time consuming, and expensive, but really fun too.
    Oh, and you can probably get an internship once you’ve gone a couple years so you can get real work experience to put on a resume for a job you really want someday.

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    You can have all the knowledge in the world, but what use is it if you do not have the degree to prove it? There are very few people who will hire someone based on what the person says they know. Having a degree will get you more money and it will also open up a variety of businesses who will be willing to hire you.

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    Let’s put it this way. You find yourself capable of obtaining the skills you would need for a job through some media other than college courses, and then you wonder if college is pointless. Well, you also go to college for a degree, which is not obtainable elsewhere. If that degree is useless, then yes, college would be completely pointless for you. However, that certainly isn’t the case in the IT world. IT corporates love to see those degrees and certifications. Small companies do, too. Without a degree, you will be nothing more than a high school kid from the employer’s perspective, because they have no confidence of what you’re capable of doing. So, get that degree to make them happy.

    On a side note, however, you’ve raised a very good point that nowadays people can learn basic IT skills as easy as making a few clicks on the Internet. And, this is done remotely at home, meaning people from around the world can do this as long as they have Internet access. This phenomenon creates a surplus in supply of labor force and impacts the IT job market negatively. It lowers the standard salary scales, and then there is certainly less respect for the profession. IT professionals are no longer looked at as engineers, but rather often times technicians.

    Head to the forum I’m linking to check out hundreds of stories from people who are in the similar situations like yours.

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    A lot of CS graduates were in your position too, try and talk to one of them (hopefully one responds here).

    You would not believe how much more competent you will become after 4 years of education in computer science, how much better of a programmer you will be, etc.

    Sure, you know html, php, some java script, and are learning java, but this is nothing remarkable. The point is, a lot of high schoolers say they “know” a language (especially easy things like markup languages), but they are really not any good at using it. You need a lot of experience to develop your ability in programming, such experience and education is available in college.

    Given the rigor of college, it is unlikely most people who learn on their own would be able to independently keep up with someone who had gone through 4 years of “training.” It just does not make any sense.

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    College is not just going to class and learning stuff. Many grads with averge marks become very successful because they spent their college years developing their social network. The people in your class and in the classes ahead of you are going to be working in your chosen field — you want to know them, you want them to know you — not as that a**hole who partied all semester and got drunk and puked in the dean’s convertible and never handed anything in on time. You want to be the guy that they say “yeah, I would hire him/ recommend him at the company I work at” Same wiht your instructors — if they have industry contacts (and most IT instructors do) you want them to be saying “yes, I have a great student who would do well at your company”.

    One of our instructors used to work at Microsoft — and his former co-workers knew that he came to do a little teaching when he retired. They would call him all the time to see if he had a student who could “do a rush job”, “fill a last minute internship position”, etc. And which students did he recommend? Not necessarily the ones with the highest marks – he knew that Microsoft valued customer service skills, pleasant personality, teamwork, blah, blah blah just as much as how many certs the kid had.

    If you teach yourself, you lose out on that opportunity — and it makes a huge difference in your employability!

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    There are two options for you to be successful

    1. Get a degree to show you qualify with the minimum level of proficiency desired by companies
    2. Build a portfolio of projects which showcase a high level of individual skill and competence as well as the ability to work in a team and deliver results. That is what the companies are actually looking for.

    With 2, you don’t need a degree and you have a strong chance that through reputation, companies will come to you and people with 1 will report to you. If you don’t have the confidence to get 2, then 1 is the better choice and do a degree.

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